• R14 vs Seamanship - The Great Greyness
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  Benjamin Harding Yesterday 02:57
• Rule 19 - "Pass' vs 'Avoid' Language
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  Colin Mann Fri 01:01
• Shortened Course
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  David Keeling Thu 02:24
• An error in Appendix E 6.3 in the RRS 2025-2028
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  John Ball Mon 11:22
• Two boats crabbing simultaneously & definition of head to wind
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  Al Sargent Mon 01:20

• R14 vs Seamanship - The Great Greyness
  See Case 50. 
  Colleen Cooke Today 16:05
• Two boats crabbing simultaneously & definition of head to wind
  Angelo -
  
  Yes, if done correctly a roll tack can accelerate a boat substantially, but that kinetic seems to be acceptable in general practice if not linked to another immediate roll tack.
  
  I was trying (and not succeeding) in asking: Using the roll tack example, is it "ok" to do one crab? Is the foul when a competitor does multiple linked crabs?
  
  When watching ILCAs from the signal boat, there are lots (sometimes all) of the boats performing various maneuvers constantly for the last 20 seconds before the start. Bows are going up and down, sails are going in and out, and body weight is being moved inboard and out. None of that looks like crabbing to me. It's only when I see a boat backing its mainsail and skulling to get the bow down that I think it's a crab, and only when it's repeated do I think the boat is crabbing, similar to repeated and linked roll tacks. (All this said with the proviso that Rule 42 is not my strong suit as I'm more of a Race Officer vs Umpire.)
  
  
  Beau Vrolyk Today 12:00
• Rule 19 - "Pass' vs 'Avoid' Language
  Eric re: "When green heads up and/or when blue gybes there is no overlap. "
  
  This is where we disagree.  By the drawing it appears to me that overlap is not broken until after Blue alters course. 
  
  The moment Blue alters course to leeward, she "acts" to choose that side. That, IMHO, is the moment she breaks 19.2. 
  
  PS: I think many if not most PC's, once it is well established that a 1/2 BL overlap was established and held for at least the previous 3 BL's before Green alters course, that the burden would be more on Blue to show that overlap was broken prior to Blue altering course. Though that's a rule from RRS 18 (and match racing) and not 19  .. the idea of last point of certainty is still commonly applied when it comes to overlaps being established or broken. 
  Angelo Guarino Today 11:34
• Shortened Course
  I think the approach I've seen used is to tell them they have been finished on the previous lap. (Legally or illegally)
  
  I still think if we see the SIs it will clarify the situation with a phrase like 'The Race Officer may decide to finish boats at any time at his discretion. This may not be the lead boat, but results will be calculated on average lap time to ensure fairness, the aim being to keep the finishing window as short  as practicable' (I selected that frome Penzance Sailing Club who used it for handicap and non-handicap fleets) or from my club 'For a committee boat finish, flag S will be displayed on the committee boat accompanied by two sound signals. For a shore-based finish, two sound signals will be made. Boats will finish the race when they next pass through the start / finish line. Finishing position shall be determined on an average lap basis.'
  
  (Clearly purists will say start/finish line shouldn't be mentioned - but for an average club sailor that's clear and easier to understand than describing a gate. And for the even more purist, a Committee Boat should be called a signal vessel but I can say with certainty the club sailors know what a committee boat is and will think I've lost the plot if I say signal vessel.)
  Calum Polwart Fri 14:40
• An error in Appendix E 6.3 in the RRS 2025-2028
  It is simpler and more direct to add to radio sailing NOR or SI:
  "A protesting boat shall inform the other boat at the first opportunity. This adds to E6.3."
  
  
  Philip Hubbell Wed 18:20

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