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• "Rules Governing the Duration of Flag D Display Ashore Before Start"
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• Redress for UFD Penalty Caused by Contact Before the Start: Protest Committee Responsibilities and Applicable Rules
  Tim O'Connor said
  
  

  To float a further hypothetical: assume the same first two paragraphs of facts found, but on a black flag. 
  
  There is a recall on that start. Y is, on the facts found, over and is, correctly from the point of view of the RC, BFD. Y's number is displayed, and Y leaves the race area as required. 

  
  No rule requires Y to leave the racing area (unless it is in the SI).  RRS 30.4 only requires that she not start in the restarted race.
  
  

  X starts the restart, while Y, prejudiced by the fault of X, is disqualified from the race without recourse against the RC. That's clearly an entirely unjust outcome, that Y is prejudiced by another boat breaking the rules, but is there a route to a result that cures that outcome?

  
   The bar for redress is high.  There are many incidents where a boat is 'prejudiced' by another boat breaking the rules, typically, any Part 2 incident, where no redress is available.
  
   Case 96 addresses the BFD restart scenario.
  
  Once it is established that Y was compelled to break RRS 30.4 in the first start she is exonerated for breaking RRS 30.4, but because the first start is General Recalled, Y was never able to return to the pre-start side and overcome her OCS and sail the course and obtain a finishing place as described in  Case 140, so she can't be reinstated into that place by way of redress.
  
  Case 96 Answer 1 gives us an answer:  she should be given redress based on her results in other races.
  John Allan Today 00:12
• "Rules Governing the Duration of Flag D Display Ashore Before Start"
  Thank you Roger.
  
  The RYA legal advice is a wonderful resource, but it is voluminous.
  
  I quite understand how RRS 3 may not work for persons under age.
  
  Could you point me towards the exact document that says 'personally legally responsible'.
  
  I"m still very interested in the answer to Lawnin's question
  
  

   How do you know which countries hold the RO legally responsible when boats are not racing? 

  
  What are the criteria you use to assess the obligations in different national jurisdictions?
  
  Can you briefly tell us what (sorts of) national jurisdictions have different (sorts of) obligations?
  John Allan Yesterday 22:35
• A protests B, C & D; B protests A & C; C protests only D .. but not all valid

  Warren,  see John's response to this. He meant 60.4(b) and (c). 

  
  Yup.  fixed in my previous post.
  John Allan Yesterday 22:06
• Best Scoring System to Select Champion Boat from multiple Divisions
  Niko,
  
  You suggested:
  
  "Gotcha. Since they all have handicaps, would you consider scoring them based on their adjusted average speed over the night? Basically handicapping the whole fleet against each other.
  To me, that seems more fair than comparing them based on the place they finish within their fleet of completely different competitors."
  
  I like your suggestion and I plan to run some tests vs the method I have been using around the Most Competitive Fleet.
  
  Thank you.
  Jerry Thompson Yesterday 18:28
• Aggiornati i testi suggeriti in italiano per i verbali
  Perfetto
  Grazie Claudio
  Tiziano Menconi Yesterday 05:05

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