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• Mark-Room and Room to Pass an Obstruction who wins.
  Please tell me why 19.2.a , AT the tree, doesn't limit PE. It's not ROW and therefore doesn't have the right to choose which side. 
  
  Please explain why the definition of obstruction applies to SR. It was never AT the tree and didn't need to be AT the tree. From a mile away or two hull lengths away, the tree was never an obstruction to SR since it's course has never required it to sail THROUGH the position of the tree. Please explain why this tree forces SR to avoid it when its course never reaches it. The conclusion it chose to pass it on the right is equivalent to saying a tree a mile to windward of it is an obstruction and SR chose to leave it on its starboard side. The skipper of SR would never have thought "that tree 2 boat lengths upwind of the mark is in my way". In the ordinary use of what we all know is an obstruction to a passage, it is an object we HAVE to avoid to continue on our journey. That is not the case for SR, therefore it's is not an object it needed to choose to pass either way.
  Tim OConnell Today 15:30
• Measurement Basis of Hull Length or Hull Lengths and Associated Rules
  I'm not sure that the recent revisions involving hull have been an improvement. We have the situation where bowsprit doesn't count for over the line or hull length, but does count for overlap. And ERS isn't that helpful when it comes to hull length. If you take a modern 18 or other similar craft there's a nominally vertical stem, but a tube projecting from that, with bracing structure both beneath and to each side. Throroughly part of the hull. OK, count it as bow sprit. Maybe. But in other classes you have exactly the same, but a solid construction. Look at these two. Where, in ERS terms is the bow on each, and how on earth do you tell who is over if you are sighting a busy startline? 

  

  Jim Champ Today 13:25
• 1.1 Helping Those in Danger and Redress Race Time Adjustment
  Very practical method Alan - and 'refreshing' (for the routine ones I have PC experience in, we just did the corection calcs within ourselves - this case a major one) - for ourselves, easy enough to submit to the PC, when national level racing, as we always log all such baseline performance & tracking data from the onset of every race (and event YB Tracker always used etc).
  
  
  John Quirk Today 00:15
• Rule 55.2 One Spinnaker Pole or Two?
  Gary, the issue is not whether the spinnaker is asymmetric or not. It is about the attachment of the pole to the sheet or clew of the spinnaker (RRS 55.3).
  
  Old sailors might say 'one clew of the sail must fly free'.
  
  In your 18 footer illustration, the tack of the spinnaker is on the pole, however complicated the guying/bracing arrangement of the pole may be, but the clew and the sheet are not attached to anything exerting outward pressure.
  John Allan Fri 23:14
• "Rules Governing the Duration of Flag D Display Ashore Before Start"
  Andreas, I don't agree that illustrations of flags used should not be included in SI.
  
  RRS Race Signals includes pictures of all flags referred to.  That indicates that the SI, when prescribing a new flag signal may do the same.
  
  I've frequently seen flags to be used, and actual marks, being displayed at Competitors' Briefings.
  
  Why is this a bad practice?
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