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  • Stewart .. first on Case 75 .. it's main point is that a ROW does not loose its ROW rights when RRS 18 applies ("When rule 18 applies, the rules of Sections A and B apply as well. ").  This was supporting the point you were making to Bob.  Yea, in Case 75 the ROW boat is the inside boat entitled to MR, so that's a major difference in the facts, but the over-arching point of Case 75 is that Part 2/Section A/B rules do not "turn-off" when Section C rules apply, unless the Section C rule specifically states so (supporting your position).

    On Proper Course .. I'm making a finer point about proper course being used as an if/when/then test in both def: MR and RRS 18.  It's more of how it is discussed so as to not accidentally phrase it such that a boat must sail her proper course.

    In def: mark-room, WHEN a boat entitled to MR's proper course is to sail close to the mark, THEN her MR includes room to sail to the mark on the correct side.  That's the best way to describe it IMO (just as it's written) .. keeping PC inside the "testing box" and then not reference it again.

    I understand that you are making an if A=B and A=C then B=C equivalency, but in my experience, folk have a magnetic affinity to want to latch onto the idea that a boat must sail their proper course any chance they get and then will forget the details in between that got them there.

    So .. JMHO ..  best to describe the space the boat is entitled to in this instance as "room to sail to the mark (on the proper side)", and no longer use the "proper course" term in describing that room after applying the proper course test.
    Today 18:46
  • CASE 108 is so cool too !!
    Yesterday 22:54
  • I do not understand alll the emphasis in beat to windward.
    It is obviouswhen this applies, though the caseconfuses matters on overstanding.

    Match racing, owing to the type of penalty has its own rules..

    For the overstanding just look at 18.1(a)2

    This was designed for this, opposite tacks, with one having a proper course to tack.

    Do we need to look further?
    Yesterday 10:02
  • Sue, The position of the marks may be adjusted slightly for small shifts in the mean wind (+/-5 degrees) without signaling a change of course. Any adjustments will be made before the first boat is on the leg to the adjusted mark. This changes RRS 33.

    How does this sit with Race Management Policies 12.1(a)

    With a persistent wind shift of 10° or less the course will not be changed unless necessary to
    adjust for current or to provide a true downwind leg.


    Mon 21:24
  • Paul, thanks for making the suggested change 
    Mon 13:54

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