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  • Jim ... I'm not speaking of dinghies and the type of sailors that buy and race them.  I'm thinking of larger keel boats ... and they type of folk who buy and race them. 

    Again ... it's just a thought based upon my experiences. Might end up being a disaster ... but might end up providing a better experience. 

    PS: To be clear, I'm suggesting that maybe we try SI's in some events where no flag is required when contact is obvious ... a lesser standard than the current 60.2(d).  "Hail" still required. 
    Today 14:04
  • Tim the "sort it out on the water" is emblematic of the 2-boat centric mindset which is misplaced in fleet racing.  It's a foundation of that old article I wrote. 

    When a boat breaks a rule for which they are not exonerated, they gain an incalculable advantage against all other boats in the fleet.  Some are close, some might be on the other side of the course, and it's impossible for anyone to calculate what those advantages are.  

    The idea that 2 boats can "work it out on the water" reduces the effect of a boat's rule-breach to only the other boat that is referred-to in that rule ... as if this was a one-on-one match race and no other boats existed.  

    THAT is what I try to get-through first when this topic comes up with individual racers.  When we compete in fleet racing, we are all OTW judges for the rest of the fleet.
    Today 13:59
  • Sorry.

    I was in a rush last night so missed attaching the link. 

    (Stumbled on that appeal case looking for something completely different!  Will take some time to digest it.)

    I think I'm with Mike, though now I wonder what the repercussions of withdrawing it would be. Might cause even more issues! 

    Of course the issue of conflict of interest is not addressed in the RYA Appeal. That's another matter.
     
    Haha. It's never-ending. 

    Interesting find though... 


    Today 00:14
  • Yesterday 19:03
  • I think that there is a difference between 'will promptly take a penalty' and 'are encouraged to'. 

    When reading RRS 2 it is essential to refer to WS Case 138, which sets out actions that can be cosidered to be examples of bad sportsmanship or misconduct.
    Wed 12:51

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