Recently I have been ask to add this sentence "If only one gate mark is in position, that mark shall be rounded to port.” to my Sailing Instructions. Even though I've used it in the past I stopped using it years ago. This instruction has the potential to create more issues.
Assume that the port gate mark drags 10 feet; to some boats the mark is no longer in position, but to others it's still in position. While sailing downwind it will be hard to detect if the mark is in position or not . This means that some boats will take the starboard mark to port and some to starboard. It would have an undesirable outcome that could cause many protest hearings.
I am interested hear your opinion regarding this.
I suggest the following: “If only one gate mark is laid, that mark shall be rounded to port.”
This simply means that if there is only one mark in the vicinity, leave it to Port. And by implication, if there are two, choose your favourite!
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If one of two gate marks is missing and has not been replaced as described in RRS 34, then the remaining mark shall be rounded to port. This changes RRS 34.
Mike
The difference between the windward and offset mark situation and the gate situation is that the gate is formed by two marks, whereas the windward and offset marks are rounded independently of each other and in a specified order. The offset mark is no different than any other mark of the course. To have a gate both marks must be there and the rounding direction for each requires knowing where the other mark is.
Properly written, such a sailing instruction can save a race for the sailors, the PRO from a bad situation, and a PC from a long night of redress hearings. Seems like a reasonable trade-off to me.
That said, my understanding of the wording is to allow for those instances where a gate mark may have sunk, or dragged so far as to be out of consideration. The alturnative is to abandon the race and that results in way more requests for redress, than rounding the remaining gate mark to port.
I like either: 'If only one gate mark is present ...' or 'If one gate mark is missing ...'.
I also think MIke B's caveat about rule 34 might be useful.
Edit: Thinking about it, if the 'only one gate mark is present' language is used, there is no need for the rule 34 reference: if the race committee has replaced the mark in accordance with rule 34, then both gate marks will be present and the clause will not trigger.
'If only one gate mark is laid ...' has a problem: it will be very rare for a race committee to deliberately lay only one gate mark: the poblem ususlly is that one of the marks that was laid has drifted, or observed out of position and lifted by the race committee: nevertheless two marks were laid.
Likewise with 'replaced': this implies an action by the race committee, to 'replace' the mark, that is unlikely to have happened.
Mark 2 may be a gate. If the gate is not in place, the existing mark shall be left to port.
Do you have other accompanying SI’s / words / diagram that go along to define the course with/without a gate when you use that language?
Ang
It just opens the door to dispute about the meaning of 'in position' or 'in place'.
Second, I agree with Angelo. A gate consists of two marks, each of which is a gate mark. The gate as a whole is not a mark
I'm troubled by 'may be a gate'. If it 'may be a gate' it alternatively 'may not be a gate'. Which is it to be? Competitors are entitled to know unambiguously what course they are required to sail.
Rereading what you wrote above, John C, had me think “we are not talking about rule 18.4!” (another difference between the missing offset and gate-mark situations).
When talking about an “out of position” gate mark, 18.4 is either on or off depending on whether they are “at a gate mark”. So, is 18.4 on or off?
We could have 2 boats thinking they are racing under 2 different rule conditions.
PS: Also, if boats do not notice this until very late in the leg, the boats setting up for a starboard rounding at the right-gate could be seriously out of position and disadvantaged, trapped on the outside of a wheel when they would have been setup as inside boat! IMO, this seriously effects the fairness of the competition.
How about this? How about we not leave it up to the competitors and put it back on the RC?
If the RC can’t do that, then they abandon.
PS: I changed the suggested companion flag to flag F since flag A is used in other communication (and the single diamond visually sort’a conveys the meaning a bit, “The next mark is changed to a single mark”).
Seriously over-thinking this very simple issue. We have a couple of clear and simple sets of words. Choose one and stop worrying about it!
And BTW we certainly don’t need any more flag signals made out on the course. The one proposed would come out maybe once every five years and no one would have the vaguest idea what it meant.
Mark W shall be rounded to starboard. In the event one gate mark is missing, the remaining mark shall be rounded to starboard.
An even wiser IRO, whose initials are PR said, "Don't be tricky. Unless you like redress hearings."
"If one of the gate marks is missing, the remaining mark shall be left to port." Simple and to the point. If the competitors have radios, announce the situation on VHF. "Competitors, competitors, competitors. This is the Race Committee. A gate mark is missing. The remaining mark shall be left to port." [Repeat]
In 20+ years of being a race officer and 50 years of racing, I've only seen a gate mark missing once. That's about 600 regattas and something like 5400 races. That's a 99.98% probability of it not happening. I'll take those odds on anything.
That being said not all races are run by professional RC, I have had times when we get on the water and the person/people on the leeward mark boat whom have claimed they know how to set gates get on the water and it is pretty obvious that they don't know how to set a gate. It's sometimes wiser, especially if the first class is getting close to the 1/2 point on the run to just call it and live with a single mark at the bottom. I have had marks deflate only to find that the mark boat does not have a working blower blower. (For the record for any traveling PROs, there are adequate battery operated small blowers at Home Depot or Lowes that work like a charm, I now have 2 of them.)