Where we race, our inflatable marks often have a retrieval rope tied to them. These are not attached to the anchor, but rather free-floating, to help the mark set team to easily grab them and get the mark.
Question: if a boat touches this retrieval line, but not the inflatable mark itself, then for the purposes of Rule 31, are they considered to have touched the mark?
Why this matters: this comes up frequently when rounding a leeward mark, where you're trying to cut close to the buoy in order to be able to hold a lane on the subsequent upwind leg. Sometimes these retrieval lines extend a few feet to leeward of the mark, half a boat-width in a Laser, which is quite significant.
The definition of mark includes, "and an object intentionally attached to the object or vessel", which seems to imply that the retrieval rope is considered part of the mark.
Thanks.
Many countries require retrieval lines on fishing marks to end in a small buoy or float so that they are visible. This sounds to me like a sensible seamanlike action.
Tom, given the strong wind, waves, and current that we often have here in San Francisco, putting a boat hook on the anchor rode could likely lead to a flailing boat hook and injured mark set person. Or a broken boat hook. Imagine the windiest days in your venue, and that's pretty much every summer day in SF.
Gordon, interesting idea to protest the race committee for improper action, but it could be a tough call given that these steps are taken by people who run dozens of regattas a year.
My point about boat hooks was not that one should use one but that if one were using one, there would be no need for a retrieval line.
In Toronto at least, almost all the clubs use tetrahedrons that have handles, Where a pin held up by a float through which the pole fitting passes is used, it may have a line that goes from the attachment point for the rode under the float to the pole fitting above the float, providing a loop to grab. Where cylinders are used, something may be affixed to the mark and to its attachment to the rode so that the mark layer can grab it. I have not seen retrieval lines.
More generally, I think the use of retrieval lines with or without buoys on them should be avoided. A trailing rope with no float is a probably unseen menace to proper mark rounding. A line with a float trailing off to leeward is almost as bad for the competitor because it will be obscured by the mark itself when the boat is approaching from upwind. Moreover, we're just making the mark a whole lot wider, for our convenience, so we shouldn't.
Hi Travis,
I'm not sure this will work, since that SI would then attempt to change a Definition, which of course is not permitted. What do you think?
RYA 1989/10 is illustrative and pesuasive
'Marks are laid for the benefit of competing boats and it is important that ground tackle be arranged to minimise possibility
of being fouled by the boats. In cases involving errors by the race committee, it is a good principle that any doubts be resolved in favour of the competitor.
The solution is to avoid trailing lines, not to come up with a SI to excuse it.
don't trail ropes for Moth foilers, you may get a bill for $6,000 !