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Appendix UF - Umpired Fleet Racing

Randy Smith
Nationality: United States
Certifications:
  • National Race Officer
  • National Judge
  • National Umpire
In the International Masters Regatta this past weekend, we had an interesting incident, and discovered that more clarity might be needed in the application of UF 3.5 (c) which allows umpires to signal a black flag to disqualify a boat from the race.   What seems to be missing from Appendix UF is any specific guidance on what situations, breaches or incidents would merit a black flag.  In this event, RRS 14 Level A, B and C damages were defined and penalty points were 0, 6pts or 12 pts added to that race score.  We penalized a boat with a standard penalty and with level C damage, they were also assessed 12 pts added to their score.  The foul was not intentional and the penalized boat did their turn immediately.  The boat not penalized ended up with a shredded spinnaker from the incident.   We could not find a way to get to a black flag as this would have resulted in a lesser penalty to the penalized boat.  The event is in borrowed boats so the OA is motivated to discourage contact as much as possible with significant penalties.

The only 2 instances we could come up with to black flag in an umpired fleet race would be  1) Failure to do a penalty turn after multiple signals by umpire, or 2) Extreme unsportsmanlike behavior or intentional damage to a boat.

Any thoughts on guidelines for issuing a black flag penalty in an umpired fleet race? 
Created: 23-Oct-24 19:01

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Colleen Cooke
Nationality: United States
Certifications:
  • National Judge
  • Club Race Officer
  • National Umpire
0
How about Not Sailing the Course?

Created: 23-Oct-24 20:00
Nick Hutton
Nationality: Australia
Certifications:
  • International Race Officer
0
The most recent leg of SailGP saw the Swiss boat black-flagged on the starting line for what was essentially good old-fashioned barging at the windward end of the line. ‘Windward boat, deliberate foul, gaining an advantage, with potential for significant damage’ I expect were the umpires’ thoughts. The usual starting line penalty for OCS - drop behind the last boat to cross the line - was not relevant, and the other usual penalty for a foul - drop behind the boat fouled - probably thought too lenient. In the following race, the Team Germany boat bailed out at the Windward end when it was apparent there wasn’t going to be room. Lesson learned. 
Created: 23-Oct-24 21:27
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John Allan
Nationality: Australia
Certifications:
  • National Judge
  • Regional Race Officer
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Randy Smith
Said Created: Today 19:01
In the International Masters Regatta this past weekend, we had an interesting incident, and discovered that more clarity might be needed in the application of UF 3.5 (c) which allows umpires to signal a black flag to disqualify a boat from the race.   What seems to be missing from Appendix UF is any specific guidance on what situations, breaches or incidents would merit a black flag.  In this event, RRS 14 Level A, B and C damages were defined and penalty points were 0, 6pts or 12 pts added to that race score.  We penalized a boat with a standard penalty and with level C damage, they were also assessed 12 pts added to their score.  The foul was not intentional and the penalized boat did their turn immediately.  The boat not penalized ended up with a shredded spinnaker from the incident.

We could not find a way to get to a black flag

Agree

Rule UF3.4(a) provides the following conditions for a Black Flag DSQ

(a)            When a boat
(1)     breaks rule 31 and does not take a penalty,
(2)     breaks rule 42,
(3)     gains an advantage despite taking a penalty,
(4)     commits a breach of sportsmanship, or
(5)     fails to comply with rule UF3.6 or to take a penalty when required to do so by an umpire,

Seemingly none of these applied, so Red Flag turns, and damage penalty assessnment was applicable to the incident.

 as this would have resulted in a lesser penalty to the penalized boat.

I don't see why, if a Black Flag condition applies AND the conditions for damage penalty assessment under rule UF1.3 14.3 are met then both can apply.  There's nothing I can see that suggests otherwise:  it's no different from a Red Flag penalty and damage penalty assessment as you did.

The event is in borrowed boats so the OA is motivated to discourage contact as much as possible with significant penalties.

Take bigger Damage Deposits

The only 2 instances we could come up with to black flag in an umpired fleet race would be  1) Failure to do a penalty turn after multiple signals by umpire, or 2) Extreme unsportsmanlike behavior or intentional damage to a boat.

Why?

That's way above the conditions listed in UF3.4(a)  which gives discretion to umpires.

Any thoughts on guidelines for issuing a black flag penalty in an umpired fleet race? 

6.1 Umpire Initiated Penalties includes

 Red or black?
There are some situations where depending the exact circumstances, a red or a black flag may be possible options for the umpires. For most infringements, the umpires should first signal a one-turn penalty with a red flag. They might then consider an additional penalty with a red flag if the breach was deliberate or the boat gained an advantage, as discussed above. The umpires may display the Black flag to disqualify the boat if:
• Breaches are clearly deliberate, severe or repeated
• The boat commits a serious breach of sportsmanship
• The boat gains an advantage despite taking a penalty that cannot be corrected with a red flag. e.g. causes damage to another boat that prevents her from being able to continue sailing.
• The incident causes serious damage or injury In general, give a second red flag before giving a black. The exception is that if the breach was a failure to sail the course, then the only option is a black flag to disqualify the boat.


I realise that this refers to Addendum Q, but I don't see why the principles and approaches discussed should be any different for Appendix UF.

Created: 23-Oct-24 21:44
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Michael Butterfield
Nationality: United Kingdom
Certifications:
  • International Judge
  • International Umpire
  • International Race Officer
1
The boat with the shredded spinnaker should finish in front of the boat committing the breach.
If not she has gained an advantage despite taking a penalty.
She should either be continually red flagged till she remains behind the boat, or a black flag may be appropriate.
Created: 23-Oct-25 09:37
Gordon Davies
Nationality: Ireland
Certifications:
  • International Judge
1
Randy said:  The foul was not intentional and the penalized boat did their turn immediately. 
However, was the penalised boat sailing recklessly or in a manner that does, or is likely to, cause damage or injury. If so Answer 1:5 of case 138 applies and this can be considered a breach of recognised principles of sportsmanship, therefore a breach of rule 2.
Many judges and umpires seem unwilling to implement this part of the rule. I believe that we can trust in the judgement of umpires and judges who witness such an incident to decide if a boat has acted recklessly, putting themselves and other in danger.
Created: 23-Oct-25 10:54
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