Forum: The Racing Rules of Sailing

US Sailing Advisory to Race Officials and Organizing Authorities

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Paul Zupan
Certifications:
  • International Judge
  • National Judge

The following is an advisory to all race officials from the Race Administration Committee of US Sailing:


Regarding a Discrepancy between Rule (b) and Rule


There is a discrepancy between new rule (b), which permits protest committees to penalize competitors for actions by support persons, and rule , which says, "A boat or competitor shall not be penalized without a protest hearing, except as provided in rules , , , (d), , , and ." (Note that rule (b) is not included in this list.)


The position of the US Sailing Race Administration Committee is that under the rules as currently written, a protest committees cannot penalize a competitor under rule (b).


If a support person breaks a rule that applies to boats – for example, by cleaning the bottom of a boat during an event in violation of a sailing instruction – or if the action of the support person results in the boat breaking another rule (for example, rule ), the boat may be protested for breaking a rule. And if in the ensuing protest hearing the protest committee decides that the boat has broken a rule, it shall disqualify her unless some other penalty applies.


If, on the other hand, a support person breaks a rule that applies only to support persons – for example, if a coach fails to observe limits for coach-boat positioning as stated in a sailing instruction – and no rule applying to boats is broken, then only the support person may be penalized with the protest committee acting under rule (a).


Both rules and (b) are rules of Part 5 and may be changed by the notice of race or sailing instructions under rule (b). However, the Race Administration Committee’s position is that neither the notice of race nor the sailing instructions should remove the due process safeguards provided to a boat or competitor by rule


Thus, race officials and organizing authorities in the United States are strongly advised:

  1. Not to penalize a competitor under rule (b) because we believe that it is not permitted by the rules; and
  2. Not to use the notice of race or sailing instructions to change rule to permit them to penalize a competitor under (b), because doing so removes due process safeguards that protect a boat or competitor.

US Sailing will defer further guidance on this matter pending action by the World Sailing Racing Rules Committee


US Sailing Race Administration Committee


Hank Stuart, Chairman


Dave Perry – Appeals, Jim Thweatt – Classifiers, Stephen Wrigley – Judges, Chris Howell - Measurers and Equipment Inspectors, John Strassman - Race Management, Rob Overton - Racing Rules, Glenn Oliver – Umpire


Questions & Answers


Question 1: May a protest committee penalize a boat or competitor without a hearing for the actions of a support person?


Answer 1: No. Such a penalty without a hearing is not permitted by rule .


Question 2: May the notice of race or sailing instructions change rule pursuant to rule (b) to allow the protest committee to penalize a boat or competitor for the actions of a support person?


Answer 2: Although the answer is yes, the US Sailing Race Administration Committee strongly advises against taking this action because doing so removes due process safeguards that protect a boat or competitor.


Question 3: What can a boat, race committee, protest committee or technical committee do if it believes that a boat has violated a rule (such as a sailing instruction or rule ) because of the actions of a support person?


Answer 3: A boat, race committee, protest committee or technical committee may file a protest against the boat for violating a sailing instruction or other rule.


A PDF version of this advisory may be found on the Rules page of the US Sailing website.

Created: 17-Apr-14 20:01

Comments

Jos Spijkerman
Nationality: Netherlands
Certifications:
  • Regional Race Officer
  • International Judge
  • International Umpire
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To avoid running over the protest time limit, would it be smart to always also protest a boat (under rule 3 for example) when a hearing regarding a supporting person is to be held?
Created: 17-Apr-16 08:20
Willii Gohl
Nationality: Germany
Certifications:
  • International Judge
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Hi Jos,
despite I totally agree with the Race Administration Committee and would be more than happy if the German MNA had also such a clear position, which part of RRS 3 a boat may have broken, when a support person breaks a rule?
Created: 17-Apr-16 09:37
Luigi Bertini
Nationality: Italy
Certifications:
  • Regional Race Officer
  • National Judge
  • International Judge
  • National Umpire
  • International Umpire
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Good spot Willii.
Just another issue: why not to change "before the hearing" with "before the protest time limit" for requirement (a) and (c) in 61,2?
Created: 17-Apr-17 11:11
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Michael Butterfield
Nationality: United Kingdom
Certifications:
  • International Judge
  • International Umpire
  • International Race Officer
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Many thanks for bringing this to our attention. we are aware the concept of due process is a problem in the USA where their Olympic selection criteria and other acts do not consider even a world sailing hearing due process. two things come to mind. one if you have a support person penalised under RRS 69 as this is mentioned in 63.1 you do not have a problem. This is strange though in the due process category as the competitor/boat may not be a party. here in GBR we have a prescription "Each competitor and boat owner shall ensure that their support persons comply with the rules" so if the support person breaks a rule then the competitor and boat break a rule. So for us  you want protest against support persons and the competitor at the same time, they are then both at the hearing and parties and you can penalise.
Created: 17-Apr-17 11:46
Willii Gohl
Nationality: Germany
Certifications:
  • International Judge
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Luigi,
Look at Submission 199-15
Created: 17-Apr-17 11:50
Willii Gohl
Nationality: Germany
Certifications:
  • International Judge
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Michael,
I know this RYA prescription, which added a new rule 3.6. However, in my humble opinion, such a rule is a desaster and is against any basics of, may I say "human rights": RYA rule 3.6 is only a construct to do a wrong thing:
Penalize someone for something he has not done! If any jury in which I may serve will do do such a thing, may be by vote, there will be a at least one strongly uphold minority opinion (mine), which will be written into the decision.
Personally I´ll never accept such a decision.
Secondly, in my opinion RRS 69 is only mentioned in RRS 63.1, because a hearing under RRS 69 is not a protest hearing. In other words under the RRS there is no possibilty to penalize a boat after a decision made acc. 64.4(b)(2)
64.4(b)(1) may be different as perhaps the boat may have received outside help by such a breach.
Willii
Created: 17-Apr-17 12:11
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Michael Butterfield
Nationality: United Kingdom
Certifications:
  • International Judge
  • International Umpire
  • International Race Officer
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I do not like protesting a boat for the action of a support person, but accept it is sometimes necessary as I have seen the effect of parents on competitors and managing an event. It is a last resort but one we need to be able to resort to. In GBR I think we are more worried about the contract between the oa and the support person to be able to protest them at all. This is all very difficult, but as a world sailing official I am prepared to give effect to what they are clearly trying to make possible as I have to do to remain a race official with them. I will do what I have to and leave it to appeal (if the competitor has a problem domestically) they therefore agree by default, but will consider my actions on a jury with no appeal very carefully. A lot of us just hope it does not come before us. After some long RRS 69 hearings last year I just worry where the new easier to prove RRS 69 will leave us at events. I became an IJ for boat for boat incidents and am worried by what we may have to consider in the future. I have had boat rafted on a pier after a race and kids crashing bicycles on the boat park, a long way from sailing. Mike
Created: 17-Apr-17 12:25
Luigi Bertini
Nationality: Italy
Certifications:
  • Regional Race Officer
  • National Judge
  • International Judge
  • National Umpire
  • International Umpire
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Willii, I know the submission but it was not about what I'm talking about.
Was the submission to split b) and c).
I'm talking about not to have, at the end of PTL and until scheduled time of the hearing, the number of the protestee... 
Created: 17-Apr-17 12:43
Willii Gohl
Nationality: Germany
Certifications:
  • International Judge
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Luigi,
about (a) I see your point, but in this case you must ask the racing rules committee. About (c) I think "before the hearing" is o.k. as many protests were called invalid only because of a wrong number of the race or 1st or 2nd rounding. Now there is a chance to clarify this with all parties present.
Created: 17-Apr-17 14:14
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Paul Zupan
Certifications:
  • International Judge
  • National Judge
0
Follow-up advisory from US Sailing:

Greetings and happy new year from Bristol.

As you will recall, last April the US Sailing Race Administration Committee issued an advisory concerning a discrepancy between rule 64.4(b) and rule 63.1. The discrepancy concerned penalizing a boat for a breach by a support person.

At its Annual Conference in November World Sailing approved rules changes to address this discrepancy that took effect on January 1, 2018.

The net effect of the revised rules is that a boat may be penalized for a rules breach by its support person, but not without a hearing. Competitors and race officials are advised to study these changes carefully.

Accordingly, the April 14, 2017, US Sailing Advisory is rescinded. A copy of the follow-up advisory is attached. It may also be found on the Rules page of the US Sailing website. A complete listing of changes to the rules may be found on World Sailing’s Racing Rules of Sailing page.

Please feel free to be in touch if you have any questions.

Regards,

Matt Hill

Created: 18-Jan-02 16:49
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