During a recent discussion, there were differing opinions as to when, at the latest the windward mark in a windward-leeward course has to be in place.
Discussed options:
* the time is not defined. Since the mark will clearly be to windward, it should be in position before the first boat reaches lay-line.
* Rule 34, which applies to the "next leg", applies to the first leg up until the start, so the mark must be in position before the start signal.
* the mark needs to be in place before the start sequence begins
Any tips more welcome. Pointers to the exact rule are even better. Thanks!
I assume that your reference to RRS 34 (Mark Missing; Race Committee Absent) was meant to reference RRS 33 (Changing the Next Leg of the Course). RRS 33 states that "The next mark need not be in position at that time."
Although, there is no rule that requires a mark to be in position at a specific time - there is certainly something between common sense and best practices. It does not make sense to not have the marks in the water prior to the warning, but - the rule provides you some flexibility, perhaps you are running late, and you can set the starting line in accordance with RRS 27.1, but your windward mark set boat needs a few minutes to get into position. You probably included in your sailing instructions that the mark would be at a specified bearing and distance, if not, you probably will in the future. The fleet will at least know the general proximity to where you plan to set the mark. This lack of a rule gives you some time to get the mark in place before you confuse the fleet to the point that you become the topic of conversation back at the dock and not the event.
RRS 34 is about a mark missing and has no reference to the starting signal.
Delaying the deployment until boats are at the theoretical lay-in is in my opinion much too late.
As long as it's in the general vicinity - unanchored - at the start, you're free to tweak the distance a bit, aiming for that perfect target time. However, there is a measure of common sense involved and how much of your free time you're willing to donate to the jury in a redress hearing.
Also, the longer you wait to set the mark, the more likely it is that the anchor line will get wrapped on the mark vessel's propeller. It's the Murphy's Law probability function.
Having a mark not in position by the time a competitor needs it is an omission of the race committee. So the lay line is too late, as, by definition, the mark has to be set to know where that is, and assuming that a competitor sees the mark boat drop it and knows to tack, that's not helpful.
In the vicinity of the right area, and with competitors knowing range and bearing, is good practice, and tweaks early up the beat are probably fine. but as you've had to give range then it's not feasible to make large changes to the distance anyway. At some point well before laylines, competitors are looking for the actual mark and deciding on tacks and current and tide and tactics..... To avoid redress hearings and potentially losing a whole race, I'd be aiming for the 1 min mark, and content if it was around start time but not much after.
A couple of points for clarification:
* The original post should have referenced Rule 33, not Rule 34
* Our lake is strongly influenced by thermic activity and has very variable wind, both in strength and direction. As such, it's not reasonable to publish a compass course before the start.
* Our lake is also rather deep (more than 200m in places), so we've started using robo-bouys, which can be moved far more quickly, via remote signal.
From the comments above, the timing for having the first mark set is not defined and we can debate whether good practice is before/during/after the start sequence.
Given the above discussion, a couple of other thoughts:
* The second (leeward) mark doesn't have to be in place at the start signal either and may be moved into position up until the first boat rounds the first (windward) mark (or perhaps even a little later, depending on your definition of good practice).
* Once a mark's position has been set, if it has to be rounded a second time (like our usual up-down-up-down-finish course), changes to the marks' positions are covered by Rule 33. On this topic, there have been discussions about including a statement in the SIs, that marks may be moved up to 100m without needing to signal the fleet.
I believe this would be atypical and outside of best practices. Deciding where the mark will be (macro-scale) after racers have begun sailing the course leaves a lot of room for potential favoritism. Imagine if three buoys were in the water, and halfway up the leg the RC announced (magically audible to all) which would be the one true mark. Could strongly advantage some racers over others. That's akin to the scenario I've suggested you are describing (and maybe I'm wrong). Depending on line length relative to upwind leg length, which end of the line to start at could have a large role in winning the race.
If the NOR clearly states this intention, then I guess it could be OK, but it is a very different kind of racing. Typical sailboat racing is to a mark, not to an eventual upwind direction. The sailor reads the wind (present and future) to reach the right place ASAP.
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To actually answer the question asked, my experience as RC, coach, judge, and racing for 30 years suggests that marks are typically in place by the Prep signal. When they are not, the location is described on the course board. Sure, there is room for a percentage change (<5%? drift, small correction, etc.) over a long leg.
There are also some rules which may or may not suggest our answer, though none prescribe it directly:
My apologies if I've mis-represented or overstated the original situation.
I guess thinking from an outsider's perspective, how do you make it fair (or at least fun) for someone showing up for the first time is the primary goal. There shouldn't be any secrets or inside info; important if we want to build the sport.
I believe that OP suggested -- in a second post -- a start without a compass bearing, and the robo-mark is already in the water, but still moving (see screenshot below):
I still think this can work with the right "attitude" (ie. NOR language), but personally, I'd want to know about that before I toted my boat somewhere and paid an entry fee.
If the boat is there and the mark is ready, why not drop it?
Moving a robot mark is different to laying a mark from a mark set boat and given RRS33 only allows for changes of course from a rounding mark (not a start line) there is no mechanism in the rules for changing the position of mark 1 after the warning signal if it is laid as you have signalled or designated at the warning signal that you shall sail from the start line to mark 1.
I’m sure you could write an SI to allow you to move it while boats are sailing towards it but as a competitor, I am not sure how much I like the idea of a moving target.
As I say, I think this is different to having a mark sat in a boat, if it’s not laid, it’s not moved.