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It seems that Blue could be in violation of the new rule 14. I hope that for anything other than serious damage or injury, Blue would be exonerated. If there is serious damage, as long as Blue made some effort, she should be exonerated, I hope.
A few things that need to be worked out:
Can one "cause" something while holding a steady course? In the scenario you drew in which Blue makes no changes to course, what action of hers could be said to "cause" red to make contact?
But if Blue changes course in a way that satisfied rule 16? Red should avoid. But if there is contact, would Blue be found to violate rule 14?
I think it gets even more complicated if there is a third boat positioned to weather of Red and that boat is the one that hits the signal boat.
Which brings me to the other text that needs to be sorted out: "reasonably possible." In an earlier thread, I was in the minority in proposing that it had to be both reasonable and possible for the ROW boat to avoid. Under my interpretation, it is not reasonable for Blue to give up their perfect line to start.
I'd like to see an appeal decision clearly resolve what the ROW boat is reasonably expected to do and that holding a course is not something that can "cause" another boat to hit something.
We'll see.
But it’s not abundantly clear to me that the However clause applies. Unintended consequences?
If I apply that to the OP, I would say, given Blue's bow-out position vs Red,
Conclusions
give Red room[allow Red to avoid contact with the RC], therefore Blue does not break RRS 14(c)Blue is a right of way boat (11) holding course (16.1 off). As a give way boat, Red's obligations are to 'keep clear' of Blue (11) and not touch the mark (31).
Because the boats are approaching RC to start, no rule of Part 2, Section C applies (Preamble to Section C).
As a result, Red is not entitled to 'mark room' (18) or 'room' at the obstruction (19).
Red fails to meet her obligations and breaks 14 and 31.
Blue has no obligation to anticipate that Red will break a rule, including 14 or 31, by failing to avoid contact with RC (WS Case 27).
Irrespective of level of damage I can’t read anything in RRS 14 (2025) that would make blue culpable in any way of CAUSING Red to make contact with the Start Boat.
Which is fortunate can you imagine the carnage throughout the course if it did.
I think the concern is that the new wording on rule 14b and 14c seems to open up the possibility of Blue being penalized. I hope the cases go the way you and I both see it. But I'm never certain.
I agree with Angelo that by the time it because clear that Red is not avoiding, there is nothing Blue could do--it is not "reasonable possible" for Blue to avoid.
I think all of us agree what should be the decision. Let's hope that's the way it goes down.
"FWIW .. I've spent quite a bit of time navel-gazing on this one. The most concise way that I came to think about it was finding a way to reword the "however clause" in my mind and then apply it. Here is what I came up with ...
If I apply that to the OP, I would say, given Blue's bow-out position vs Red,"
Would an interpretation that creates an obligation for Blue not inadvertently legitimize rule-breaking? (e.g. barging or going inside at marks)
I can't think that could ever be the intent of the rules committee.
I can't think that could ever be the intent of the rules committee."
That would be a misreading of the rule IMO.
It seems clear that the WS RRC is making it an imperative to avoid contact, and the costs and dangers that result from contact.
If at #2.5 it was clear to Blue that Red could not avoid the RC and Blue reacted by #2.75 to make room for Red between her and the RC and there is no contact, Red still breaks RRS 11 .. and without contact, there is no possibility of a rule 14 breach by Blue.
We would apply Case 50's "reasonable apprehension" to Blue.
If Blue alters course to help Red avoid contact with the RC, Red Breaks Rule 11. Nothing is "inadvertently legitimize rule-breaking".
When it becomes clear to blue that red is no longer keeping clear or intending to keep clear, blue must bear away to allow room for red. Thereafter blue must Protest red for not keeping clear and breaking rule 11.
Blue can l’on longer allow no room so to cause red to hit the committee boat
Many judges will eventually hear a port v starboard windward-beat-collision protest ... where the starboard boat didn't alter course and the port boat seemingly "came out of nowhere" from the POV of starboard. This happens often in higher winds, where everyone is on the rail and the heel of the boat makes it difficult to see under the sails (especially if fitted with a 150%+ headsail).
Many times in this scenario, neither boat has adequate lookouts for opposite tack boats. Port breaks RRS 10 but, depending upon how and where the boats make contact with each other, and how long port was on her tack, starboard boat also breaks RRS 14 if it is found that having a lookout would have made it reasonably possible for starboard to avoid contact when it became clear port was not keeping clear.
We have Case 26, Case 87 and Case 107 which are informative on this issue, especially when thought of together. I'd recommend reading all 3.
Red has room to keep clear.
The contact was caused by Red's failure to change course and/or speed to avoid a stationary object.
If Red hasroomto keep clear, then the contact is not caused by Blue.In this case the contact was caused by Red failing to change course and/or speed to avoid a stationary object.