Scenario: 2 identical classic yachts racing upwind soon after start come together on port & starboard. R on starboard slightly ahead, but not quite crossing L (on port). R hails starboard. R assumes L will bear away a few degrees and duck transom of L. Unfortunately not, L smashed into R with significant damage to port aft quarter of R. R nearly sinks and immediately stops racing. After some time L decided to retire.
No valid protest held, instead R busy sorting out the damage.
L are denying any liability for the significant damage to R, claiming R should have avoided a collision. As a 3rd Party I have been asked to give comment. Does L have any grounds for defence of not being Liable? At what point does Rule 2 come into question and the possible consideration the skipper of L should not be sailing in classic boat events if so blatantly disrespectful of the racing rules and good sportsmanship?
RRS 10 states that port (L) has to keep clear from starboard (R).
When you have to keep clear, you have to keep clear. Until your last dying breath.
This rule cannot be negotiated or neglected in this situation.
By steaming into R, L did not keep clear and broke this rule.
She can only be exonerated from this if she was sailing within room or mark-room to which she was entitled (RRS 21) or if she was compelled to break RRS 10 by somebody else breaking a rule.
In addition, every boat has an obligation to avoid contact (RRS 14).
While the description sounds like it was reasonably possible for L, the keep clear boat, to avoid the collision, it was probably not reasonably possible for R to avoid the collision after it became clear that L would not keep clear.
This would mean that L broke RRS 14, but R did not.
In the scenario described above, involving serious damage (nearly sinking), L retired from the race and by that took the appropriate penalty under RRS 44.1(b).
This would be the end of it, scoring wise.
The threshold for a RRS 2 infraction usually is intentionally breaking a rule or not taking the appropriate penalty despite knowing that you broke a rule.
L denying any liability does sound more like an insurance thing and like some disagreement that will end up in a court rather than before a protest committee.
I have no idea what Ls argumentation there might be or what a court would possibly find or how she would explain having taken the appropriate penalty by retiring.
On the question of Ls character I cannot comment ;)
When there is serious damage which is obvious, the damaged boat need not protest on the water. That said, someone should have protested this boat before the time limit and held a hearing. Even if it was after the TL, with good cause, the TL could have been extended.
I actually had this happen to me last summer. Exactly the same scenario .. I'm on STB and I get T-boned on the rear quarter and a BIG hole in the boat extended just above the waterline luckily. I was thrown across the boat, hit my head and knocked silly (I know .. how can you tell right?) .. and someone remembered to fly the flag but never said "protest". It didn't matter.
The damaged boat could have done this, but also the Protest Committee can have done this as well as Serious Damage and Injury is an exception of the PC filing a protest when it learns of an incident from other parties.
For the purpose of liability, I have heard that some insurance companies require a protest decision. It's all based upon the insurance co and their policy in my experience.
I think the issue of liability or whether L belongs on the water are not suitable for a PC to decide.
I have had a similar experience where I was asked to 'arbitrate' and I refused. The competitors agreed to race under the rules, the rules provided an opportunity to protest, and the competitors let that opportunity pass.
"...but she shall attempt to inform the other boat within the time limit of rule 61.3".
No attempt, no protest. Also, what was said between the parties at the time? Was the word "protest" ever used?
.. and also is it written correctly as a change to the RRS? .. and if boats do not protest, are they breaking an SI/rule and therefore if the jury finds that they didn't protest are they both DSQ'd?
Yea .. I get that. Maybe my version above would be for those RC/PC's that want to take the tack of "first seeing if they will sort it out themselves".
For the "just make it mandatory" (and much simpler) version ...
And as for timeliness, doesn't the RRS already provide a framework for it? RRS 61.1(b). I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I firmly believe that the less said in the SIs, the better....
If a competitor also files for the incident then the PC can either hear with or withdraw its protest.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE DISCUSSION.