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  • Angelo said 'Penalize it for 23.1 or both 23.1 and 2?  A boat which breaks 23.1 is no longer racing.'

    I think this is the nub of his OP question.

    In answer, I'd say that a boat that intentionally interferes with another boat in breach of RRS 23.1 to better her position in a series is acting so as to better her position in the competition and is thus competing.  Her actions affect the fairness of the competition:  that's what gets it out if RRS 69 into RRS 2 territory.
    Today 13:30
  • IMO, the windshift is irrelevant to 18.3's above close-hauled condition as given in the OP.  I think if we are to take the more stringent application of "cause" that seems to be gaining traction in RRS 14(b)/(c),  the windward boat was not caused to sail above close-hauled by Leeward to avoid contact.  

    Windward could have held course and avoided contact. It was the windshift that caused Windward to sail above close-hauled. 

    That said, IMO, absent an agreement by both parties that this shift actually occurred, it would be nearly impossible for Leeward to convince a PC to hand-off the "cause" to a perfectly timed "wind shift" and let them off the hook, if facts were found that Windward sailed above close-hauled in the presence of reasonable apprehension of contact. 
    Today 11:57
  • Not really thought about it before but as expressed time on time allows for wind to some extent and i am used to this.

    I do work in an irc world and find other hanhicap systems complex and costly. And now with added penalties discredited. 

    Best to have one system. 


  • I must have been referring to the right subparagraph:  Jim understood.

    Fixed.
    25-Dec-16 13:39
  • Thanks John...even then with "...bearing in mind the seriousness of the allegation." (seriousness being the operative word), there is an educated [jurisdictional] assesssment of sorts to be made.
    25-Dec-16 03:37

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