Forum: Protest Hearing Procedures

RRS 63.7 Doesn't Require a Hearing

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Paul Zupan
Certifications:
  • International Judge
  • National Judge
The US Appeals Committee just released their updated Appeals Book for 2017-2020 and a revised version of US Appeal was included.  The issue in the appeal is whether a protest committee must hold a hearing on the question of determining what “it believes will provide the fairest result for all boats affected" where a rule in the sailing instructions conflicts with a rule in the notice of race (see RRS ).

The conclusion of the Appeals Committee is that the protest committee is not required to hold a hearing on the question of "fairest result" {see rule ) and therefore none of the other rules of Part 5 governing hearings apply to that process.  The protest committee can of course solicit information, opinions and advice from organizers, race officials and/or competitors, but the protest committee can make that decision without holding a hearing under .

A significant issue in the appeal is that a committee's decision as to "fairest result" cannot be deemed an "improper action" for purposes of a request for redress under rule , or an "error" for purposes of requesting a reopening under rule .  Once the decision is made, a competitor cannot challenge it with a request to reopen or request for redress.

So it would seem to me that the protest committee should approach this issue cautiously and with some consideration as their decision will be perceived as a bit authoritarian.  And the protest committee should post their decision on "fairest result" in a Notice to Competitors, and include a paragraph stating  
This decision cannot be deemed an “improper action” for the purpose of requesting redress under rule 62.1(a) (Redress), or an “error” for the purpose of requesting a reopening under rule 66 (Reopening a Hearing).
in an attempt to avoid the filing of requests and the resulting friction they are likely to generate.

This decision is from the US Appeals Committee.  Is there any disagreement from other MNA's how  might apply in this situation? Should this even be a decision made outside of a hearing (i.e.; should be changed)?

Created: 17-Feb-15 19:35

Comments

Bryan McDonald
Nationality: United States
Certifications:
  • National Judge
  • National Umpire
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This applies only to rule 63.7 in the usa, correct?
Created: 17-Feb-16 04:03
Warren Nethercote
Nationality: Canada
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Interesting ... two years ago at a world championship a competitor pointed out a conflict between the scoring provisions in the NOR and the SIs. An embarrassing moment for the race officials of all stripes. The Race Officer and Chief Judge (me) discussed the issue and the original intentions of the NOR, representing the 'contract' under which competitors entered the event. The jury members reviewed the situation and then a jury notice was posted indicating that we would be scoring the event according to the NOR, on the bases of the 'contract' principle and RRS 63.7. At the time, we saw no need for a hearing, viewing it as an official notification like any other, albeit one that invoked RRS 63.7. Had there been follow-on redress requests, of course, we would have gone to hearings .... It never occurred to any of us at the time that administrative action might be improper. Warren Nethercote
Created: 17-Feb-16 12:27
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Paul Zupan
Certifications:
  • International Judge
  • National Judge
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And beyond the question of 63.7 and issues concerning a competitor's ability to challenge the decision, the NOR couldn't change the rules (under 86.1 [2013 rules]), so the rule in the SI was the only proper change to Appendix A. The confusion around these conflicts was not uncommon and I saw more than one committee choose the NOR over the SI's despite 86.1. I believe the consensus was that leaving the NOR out of 86.1 in the 2013 rules was an oversight that has been corrected in the 2017 rules.
Created: 17-Feb-16 18:22
Warren Nethercote
Nationality: Canada
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Paul, whether our action at that world championship was proper is interesting; regardless, it passed the happy competitors test. You open up an enjoyable avenue for 'discussion.' If A2.1 permits different scoring arrangements, does making such an arrangement actually constitute a rules change? I don't think so, but never thought it worth arguing ..... Warren
Created: 17-Feb-16 18:36
Graham Kelly
Nationality: United States
Certifications:
  • National Judge
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The authority for a protest committee to act is, in part, set forth in rule 60.3, which provides for the protest committee to protest, request redress, and take "act[ions] under 69.2(b)". I do not see any provision in the RRS for a PC (or jury) to take any action without a hearing, except investigations under 69.2.

I am not arguing that a PC should not have authority to do this, only that I do not see any basis in the rule for it to do so, especially when, as in Appeal 113, a competitor has filed an RfR. In addition, it appears to violate the underlying premises of the Farrah Hall settlement, which stands for the premise that when a PC makes a decision that affects the position of another boat, the other boat should have the right to participate in the hearing.

I note that rule 63.7 is located in Part 5, Section B, "Hearings and Decisions."

 Am I missing something?
Created: 17-Mar-21 05:25
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Paul Zupan
Certifications:
  • International Judge
  • National Judge
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Responsibilities for International Juries are set out in , but I know of no equivalent rule for protest committees.
Created: 17-Mar-21 06:21
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