The Racing Rules of Sailing
Trapeze
Rule 49.1 limits the devices for shifting the bodyweight outboards to hiking straps and stiffeners. Which rule does allow trapezes?
Thank's
Thomas
Thank's
Thomas
Created: 22-Jun-19 21:31
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My interpretation is that a trapeze boat racing in an open class, not subject to class rules, can't use trapezes unless the SI's specifically allow it? Yes/No?
2 Q’s
1, is that to comply with the phrf rules, ie, to keep even with your handicap, or to comply with the RRS?
2, not all boats have a class, or class rules, what then?
2. Is an interesting one. Speaking utterly personally, not with my RYA Empirical Handicap Advisory Group hat on, I suggest there is no requirement in RRS for class rules to be issued by a current, or indeed any Class Association. I have issued 'class rules' in my own name for a one off dinghy I designed myself, and manufacturers commonly write class rules for new designs before a class association is formed. I am pretty sure that the RYA has published Portsmouth numbers for classes that no longer have a functioning CA.
So it would seem any class rules existing in some form would be valid. RYA Portsmouth Yardstick seeks to include every boat, no matter what their class status is, but equally its vital that race organisers know the configuration of every entry in order to allocate as fair a handicap as they can. I have received guidance in the past from RYA rules folk suggesting that if a boat is not maintained to its class rules it ceases to be a member of that class. To enter a boat claiming it to be a member of a class knowing that it does not comply with class rules is a clear Fair Sailing Issue. But is a statement by the owner on the lines of 'My boat is an xyz with a trapeze added. This changes RRS 49. ' sufficient to comply with RRS as a class rule? In my personal opinion that would be acceptable for UK Portsmouth Yardstick purposes.
For instance, this is from ORC …
Here, as with PHRF, sport boats are a separate class within the handicap system and they anticipate the possibility of trapeze.
Later in the base ORC rules, section 2 details the RRS’s that are changed. Here are the crew weight rules.
When you go to the ORC Sportboat Class doc, you find that even there the sport boats are separated into 3 divisions.
Here are the ORC Sportboat rules (only 3 pgs) along with the trapeze calc and Sportboat class splits.
PS…
The reason I pointed out ORC is to show that
It’s a tall-order to attempt to have fair competition when mixing apples and oranges.
Would you be willing to share your self made class rules? I have a one off that in addition to getting stats into the RYA PY systems I could probably improve what I have done with a one boat class rule published.
You're very welcome to contact me off forum if you want to discuss this more. The email link on the plusplus pages seems to be broken (must fix that) but if you go higher up the tree you should find a link that works.
Appreciate the offer and if I run into complications I'll definitely remember this and contact you. I think this will be enough to at least start and since I'm a scorer at our club. I need to make sure I can show the math so that others can assist with adjustments so that my boat is not being unfairly advantaged.
Rule 49.2 for example makes an allowance for class rules to change the rule:
‘When lifelines are required by the class rules or any other rule, competitors shall not position any part of their torsos outside them…..’
Rule 49.1 does not
‘Competitors shall use no device designed to position their bodies outboard, other than hiking straps and stiffeners worn under the thighs.‘
If I can notify the handicap committee for club handicap, or the administrator of a national / international system that I am going to ignore other RRS, does that mean I can, or can they approve that to be legal? Say RRS51 through RRS55.
RRS 86 and 87 are the important rules for determining what can be changed, its not generally embedded in the individual rules.