This question relates to IOM radio controlled yachts.
This weekend we had an incident in one of our club races, it happened at the windward and separation marks, the distance between the marks was about 6 boat lengths.
Boat A rounded the windward mark (port rounding) and beared away to the separation mark, the course was approx 90 degrees to the wind with Boat B just behind, her boom touched the mark and a call was made, the skipper of B don’t hear the call initially, it was repeated several times.
Boat B catch some extra breeze and got and an overlap to leeward of B, about ¾’s of the leg between the marks A heard the call of “Mark Contact”.
At the separation mark A called that he was going to sail clear to do the penalty turn and continued straight pass the mark and B started to bear off and hit A.
This caused and pond side discussion which there carried on in the clubhouse on the whiteboard, the general consensus was, A should have bore away after past the mark and did the turn inside the course.
Question 1 can A continue straight on in clear water to do the turn, fine if there are no boats to weather of him or should he beared away around the separation mark and gybed into the center of the course where there not boats.
Question 2 A had enough time to bear off before the separation mark done his turn and joined back in before the separation mark.
Question 3 Sailing clear to do the turn does Boat A have rights, such as keeping B to sail above her course to the next mark (both boats had past the separation mark)?
So my answer to Q1 is No,
I cannot see a question is Q2.
For Q3, the boat still has full rights until it starts to take the penalty. But it cannot sail on, keeping the other boat outside when it could begin the penalty by turning the other way. Similar to the discussion about sailing a boat off the course, this could lead to an R 2 protest.
And a late taken penalty is no penalty - you should retire or be DSQ for the original infraction.
John
a) What was the wind and sea state?
b) How maneuverable are these boats (How quickly can they turn, and how tight a turn is possible for a "reasonably well-prepared boat and a reasonably competent sailor"?
c) How fast do they go in these conditions?
d) How long are they?
e) You don't say if this race is being run with observers, but your discussion of hearing a "...call of 'Mark Contact'" seems to imply them. Were there observers?
More importantly, though, it's because there appear to be a couple of typos, and I'm confused by the incident description, to wit:
1) It is not clear to me whether boat A or boat B's boom hit the mark. I assume from later discussion you meant A, but could you confirm?
2) If A hit the mark, why do we care if or when B's skipper heard "the call"? Did A hear it, and did she hear it immediately?
3) Who made the call of "Mark Contact", and was it made properly (according to E2.1)?
4) You say "Boat B catch some extra breeze and got and an overlap to leeward of B" -- She can't get an overlap on herself - what does this mean???
5) Did A hear the call 3/4 of the distance from windward mark to offset, or did B gain her overlap at that point? Please clarify: when was the hail heard, and when was the overlap established (and by whom)?
6) At the separation mark, was A or B inside and to leeward?
7) If B got an overlap to leeward of A, how did B hit A by bearing off after the mark?
I've tried a couple of times to diagram this situation, and without some clarification, I can't do it. Please help!
IOMs are one meter long and travel at about 1 boat length per second. On the reach to the offset, frequently they will go on a full plane at double the speed. An IOM can make a penalty turn in about three seconds.
https://youtu.be/owoQlCrxxuQ?t=237
and another view of a weather mark to offset mark
https://youtu.be/UIBMw4oL73I?t=162
John
I assume that if an IOM does a penalty turn in about 3 seconds and travels at about 1 BL/sec., that a penalty turn describes a rough circle about 1.5-2 BL in diameter? Does that represent the skills of a world class helmsman, or an average skill level? (I don't actually think this makes a difference in the present case, but I'm curious.)
John
2. We have seen elsewhere that an OCS boat wanting to return to restart does have luffing rights to make room to turn back.
How is this situation different? "Sailing on with a boat outside" should be okay only insofar as getting clear of the bulk of the fleet and creating room to bear away into a penalty turn.
After viewing John's diagram, I should add that, in the absence of other boats, A is obligated to bear away as soon as possible to begin her turns. If she delays, she has rights but she is then no longer entitled to alternative penalty turns. She must take a scoring penalty or defend herself before the PC.
And Yes, regarding Q2, if she acknowledged her error and had room to bear away between the marks, she must do so. Or lose the alternative penalty opportunity.
When she bore away and made contact with A, B broke both Rule 10 and Rule 18.2(b), as well as Rule 14. A broke no rule that I can see. B is DSQ.
Disclaimer: I may have misunderstood the incident...
John