There is a new WS Q&A about hailing under R 20. As I understand it, if the hail does not include the (now) required words “Room to Tack”, and for radio sailing and App E “ [my sail number] Room to Tack” then the hail is not valid – it is as if the hail was not made. The Q&A says that as R20.1 was not followed, an hailed boat is not required to respond under 20.2.
I have a question about how this relates to a stack of boats and R20.3. Frequently in radio sailing, after starting, a group of boats will quickly approach a shoreline or dock which is an obstruction. If the hail by the leeward boat does not comply with 20.1, but the second or third boat in a stack wants to pass along the hail under 20.3, is that valid if the original hail was invalid?
John
If the hail was invalid here the hailing boat may be penalised if the jude considers she did not need to make a substantial alterations of course, as she was further from the shore.
It is unlikely she will be challenged however, as there is a boat to leeward of her.
This is a safety rule so if a boat hails correctly, you must respond.
This gets muddier as there become more boats, because the rule requires her to give others time to respond (including passing the hail along). With just three boats it's a little clearer, though the reality is that hitting the EXACT right moment might not be quibbled with by a PC/jury.
20.3 also says that the requirements of 20.1 still apply to the hailed boat when making her hail (required words, arm signals if required, etc.) but the conditions (approaching an obstruction and close-hauled) do not. What I find interesting is that the condition about fetching a mark will not apply either. Consider this situation where a mark is also an obstruction:
Blue can hail Yellow for room to tack. Yellow can now hail Green and ask for room to tack even though Green is fetching the mark because the conditions of 20.1 do not apply to Yellow's hail to Green per 20.3. This makes it critical to know if Blue hailed Yellow before Yellow hailed Green. If Blue hails first then Yellow can hail Green. If Yellow hails Green before Blue hails Yellow, then Yellow's hail is invalid as she is not passing along a hail, but making her own and therefore the conditions of 20.1 apply.
If you consider an invalid hail the equivalent of not making any hail at all as the Q&A suggests, if Blue makes an invalid hail to Yellow, then Yellow makes a valid hail to Green and then Green tacks and protests Yellow, should a PC decide that Yellow broke 20.1? I think the answer is yes. It is also the same answer that a PC should come up with if Yellow hails before Blue hails because until Blue hails Yellow cannot fall back on rule 20.3.
Using the logic from the Q&A, it is only a valid hail from Blue that allows Yellow to hail Green. Without Blue, Yellow could not hail Green for room to tack because Green is fetching the mark. If Yellow makes a valid hail then she breaks rule 20.1. If Yellow makes an invalid hail then she doesn't break rule 20.1. The validity of Blue's hail will determine whether Yellow broke a rule or maybe not.
Suppose Blue makes a valid hail to Yellow and Yellow makes an invalid hail and Green tacks and protests Yellow. According to the Q&A, Yellow does not break rule 20.1.
Huh? Try explaining all this to the sailors.
This is the truth table for my situation:
Blue's hail Yellow's hail Blue breaks 20.1 w.r.t Yellow Yellow breaks 20.1 w.r.t. Green
Valid Valid No - rule 20.1 No - rule 20.3 removes fetching condition allowing a hail
Valid Invalid No - rule 20.1 No - Q&A answer 1
Invalid Valid No - Q&A answer 1 Yes - rule 20.1 for Yellow combined with Q&A answer 1 for Blue
Invalid Invalid No - Q&A answer 1 No - Q&A answer 1
All in all, this simply strengthens my personal feelings about rule 20. Situation 2 of the Q&A is exactly what would happen if rule 20 didn't exist. Fortunately, the Q&As are not binding.
Boat's hail Conditions of 20.1 met? Breaks 20.1 w.r..t hailed boat
Valid Yes No - rule 20.1 requirements met
Valid No Yes - rule 20.1 requirements not met
Invalid Yes No - Q&A answer 1
Invalid No No - Q&A answer 1
They are rule breakers because the sentence says “shall not” … no “mays” here.