A common occurrence is for a close hauled port boat to tack ahead of a starboard boat causing the latter to take avoiding action. Assuming that port finishes his tack before avoiding action needs to be taken.
1- Is there a rule of thumb to. Indicate when rule 15 has been broken. How close is too close.
2- Does 'room to keep clear' in this situation imply that immediate avoiding action need not be taken by the give way boat.
From case 88 (which is a different scenario)
"Keep clear means something more than avoid contact."
Is this point relevant to my question?
When the Port tack boat is tacking she is obliged by RRS 13 to keep clear of the Starboard boat.
When she has completed her tack and is on a close hauled course she is clear ahead and the original starboard boat is required by RRS 12 to keep clear. If she can keep clear while manouvering in a prompt and seamanlike way then the boat that tacked has given her room as required by RRS 15.
Once a boat becomes the give way boat she needs to take immediate action provided she can do so promptly in a seamanlike way.
Paddy
When you become the give way boat you must take immediate action to keep clear. If you can’t keep clear while maneuvering in a prompt and seamanlike way the boat that became the ROW boat has not given you the room to keep clear.
To the question: I think it is always safe for the port boat to 1. avoid hitting the boat that tacked in front, 2. silently cursing the other captain, and 3. hail a protest (and let the judge decide if it was too close or not).
I think, though, that the nub of David's question is whether there is a "rule of thumb" that helps us decide the question. That's what I kept asking folks at the club. Isn't there a rule of thumb?
15 requires you to give the keep clear boat initially room to keep clear. How long that is, obviously depends on the wind, waves, boat type and such. But normally I’d say that after the tack is done, the keep clear boat needs to immediately start doing things. 3 sec is too slow in basically every situation. If the non-tacking boat needs to start reacting before the tack is done, then it’s a penalty on the tacking boat for 13.
Also it’s important to remember case 50, which talks about “a genuine and reasonable apprehension of collision”. So if the stb boat feels that he needs to luff early, and there is a genuine and reasonable apprehension of collision, then the penalty again goes to the tacking boat.
It is difficult for me to get my head around some of this. But, perhaps, one thing that is a big question for me is whether the non-tacking boat (whether expert or beginner) has a duty under the rules to anticipate the actions of the tacking boat, and how that affects ultimate liability. See, 1 second is much shorter or much longer depending upon whether one has seen what comes before. Or something like that. :)
I will stop talking now. Thanks.
If there was no contact then there was room to keep clear unless contact was only avoided by an unseamanlike act or a miracle.
If it was not possible for the give way boat to avoid, acting promptly but no sooner than the other boat actually gained right of way (in this case, reached her close hauled course), and in a seamanlike way, then the right of way has not given room to keep clear.
Relevant Cases are
Case 21
Case 103
2- Does 'room to keep clear' in this situation imply that immediate avoiding action need not be taken by the give way boat.
The rules do not expressly oblige a boat to act immediately on becoming a give way boat.
A better explanation of 'keep clear' is in Case 50
Case 50
Would there be any reason why the starboard boat speeding in could not bear away in a prompt seaman like way to avoid contact. If it’s possible and a luff is not, she must bear away to avoid contact
Paddy