Good day to everybody.
I'm still puzzled by the no application of section A and present rule 22.1, becoming 21.1 in thenew book
The sentence:
"A boat sailing towards the pre-start side of the starting line or one of its extensions after her starting signal to start or to comply with rule 30.1" ; this condition apply to any boat that are about to start.
Well, all boats in the regatta are sailing toward the starting line, from the pre-start side. And after the starting signal. All of them.
The intention is to refer to the boats OCS RETURNING from the course side to the pre-start side of the course, crossing the starting line (and not the extensions) on reverse . But is not written so. You can DEDUCT it from the title of the section, but I cannot actually read that in the rule sentence.
I think the phrase "pre-start side of the starting line" is intended to refer to the entire area that is on the pre-start side of the line, and not just that side of the line itself (i.e. not just a 1mm strip on the pre-start side of the line). A boat that is already on the pre-start side of the line is therefore not sailing "towards the pre-start side of the starting line" (irrespective of which direction they are sailing in) since they are already on the pre-start side of the line. Only a boat that is on the course side of the line and sailing back towards the line (or one of its extensions) is sailing "towards the pre-start side of the starting line or one of its extensions".
Note that boats that have started early do not have to return through the line, they can equally well go round an end (and indeed are required to do so if rule 30.1 is in force). The reference to a boat "sailing towards the pre-start side of ... one of its extensions" means that rule 22.1/21.1 applies equally to boats returning round an end as it does to boats returning through the line itself.
https://www.racingrulesofsailing.org/posts/501-ocs-around-the-pin-end
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Ang
In a traditional start with an initial weather leg, the pre-start side of a two-dimensional line is immediately to leeward of it, and yes, all boats starting properly are sailing towards the pre-start side as Aldo says.
The arguments above are implying that lines have a third dimension, which of course they don't. That flies in the face of geometry going back to Euclid.
It's too late for the 2021-24 edition of the rules, but perhaps in the next edition, new definitions could be added for "prestart zone" and "course zone". A zone is, of course a three-dimensional object, and we already use the term "zone" when discussing mark-room in Rule 18.
We all know what the rules intend, but to me, it seems like Aldo's found an inaccuracy in the wording of the racing rules that should be fixed.
Con
Edit: THAT WAS SARCASM!
In fact my two dimensional property and my three dimensional house are all on "my side" of the property line.
One can walk "from the neighbor's side to my side" of the property line. The mailman does it every day and never gets confused.
If you think about the USA - Mexico border, it is a line where the two countries meet. If you are in Mexico, you are on the south side of the border line. If you are in the U.S.A., you are on the north side of the border line.
Same for a start line. There is an area which is on the pre-start side and an area on the course side of the line.
1) The edge of something, as in "a rectangle is a four SIDEd polygon".
2) A region adjacent to an object, such as "the American SIDE of the border"
Aldo, Philip, and I (initially) seem to be thinking only of the first definition above.
Murray, Carl, Graham, and Angelo seem to be referring to the second definition.
I understand this isn't the place to submit suggested wording changes (how does one even do that?) but for the next edition of the rules ('25-'28), it might be worth changing "side" to region so the definition isn't ambiguous.
So, new rule 21.1 would become (change in CAPS):
"A boat sailing towards the pre-start REGION of the starting line or one of its extensions after her starting signal to start or to comply with rule 30.1"
Thoughts?
21 STARTING ERRORS; TAKING PENALTIES; BACKING A SAIL
21.1 A boat sailing towards the pre-start side of the starting line or one of its extensions after her starting signal to start or to comply with rule
30.1 shall keep clear of a boat not doing so until her hull is completely on the pre-start side.
and the definition of Start: A boat starts when, her hull having been entirely on the pre-start side of the starting line at or after her starting signal, and having complied with rule 30.1 if it applies, any part of her hull crosses the starting line from the pre-start side to the course side.
Based on Merriam Webster's 2nd definition:
2 : a place, space, or direction with respect to a center or to a line of division (as of an aisle, river, or street)
We don't say we are going to/towards the "right region of the room" we say - we are going to/towards the "right side of the room" which implies we are going to be on right of the imaginary center of the room from some place that is not the right side of the room.
So if we are "sailing towards the pre-start side of the starting line" we will be heading towards the space or in the direction of the pre-start side of the line which implies that the boat is not on the pre-start side of the line when it starts heading that way. I think that it is implied but not explicitly stated that the boat is OCS that is possibly confusing.
Thus, to clarify the intent of the rule to remove any ambiguity, I would suggest reverse mirroring the definition of START to remove the ambiguity and insert the phrase FROM THE COURSE SIDE as follows:
21.1 A boat sailing FROM THE COURSE SIDE towards the pre-start side of the starting line or one of its extensions after her starting signal to start or to comply with rule 30.1 shall keep clear of a boat not doing so until her hull is completely on the pre-start side."
The present wording is clear.