A boat on the beat touches the windward mark, as it rounds, heading up to take a penalty turn could potentially delay taking a penalty as how far away is correct to take the penalty, bearing away and gybing first, is likely to interfere with competitors still approaching the windward mark, is it therefore acceptable to sail the spreader leg before taking the penalty?
I recall seeing sailing instructions that allow a boat to reach past the offset mark before taking her penalty, that seems like a safer option and better for the reaching boats as they're not getting dirty air from a boat to windward taking a penalty. But if it's not allowed in the NOR or SI and you do that I think you're too late and your penalty doesn't count.
If there were an obstruction above the course from windward mark to offset mark, such as a beach, preventing heading up to take a penalty turn (and the "peloton" preventing below) there is no rule requiring a boat to stop sailing around the offset mark to find room for a penalty turn.
"As soon as possible" would be after the offset mark.
Determining when a boat is "well clear" is, to some degree, a judgment call by the boat.
And on the other hand, if the boat is alone at the mark she's already well clear and can spin around the mark to complete her penalty if she wishes.
If you thought his behavior was "vindictive" you could have added rule 2 (or the PC could have added it in the hearing) and/or you could report him for misconduct. Especially if you think he knew that you were ROW but counted on you not knowing it.
I disagree. The way 44.2 is worded, I think it is clear that a boat is not taking a penalty while she is sailing clear. (Emphasis added)
“After getting well clear of other boats as soon after the incident as possible, a boat takes […] Penalty by ….”
A boat is not “obligated” to take a penalty on the water. A boat “may” take a 1 or 2 turns penalty. If Appx V is avail or T, she might take a post-race penalty. If not, she might retire.
Until a boat starts to execute her turns (IF she has chosen to do so), she retains her rights and obligations under the rules.
If a boat is protested, does turns but at the hearing it is determined that she did not get clear “as soon as possible”, the PC may decide that she did not meet the obligations of 44.2 and if she was found to have broken a rule and is not exonerated, she shall be DSQ’d.
At a typical windward mark, there are a couple rules that could apply to leeward that could limit her course based on “a proper course” (hers or the other boat’s). For instance, Rule 17 might apply, as well as 18.2(c)(2).
Windward can slow by luffing or easing sails, let leeward pass and then sail her race.
The boat's obligation, once she decides to take a penalty is to get well clear of other boats as soon after the incident as possible. While she is doing this, the right-of-way, room, and mark-room rules apply until she begins to take her penalty by changing course so as to make the required number of turns, at which time she becomes required to keep clear of other boats in accordance with rule 21.2.
Had there been plenty of space between the marks and no boats to leeward, the offending boat should have borne away and gybed into her turns, but if that was not possible she was entitled to stand on to windward.
As long as the time she spent controlling Kelli from the leeward position was no longer than any other course to get well clear, she was entitled to do that. There's certainly nothing unsportsmanlike about a right of way boat not breaking any rule.
More generally, it's pretty easy to envisage a situation with a short offset leg and a crowded fleet, with boats overlapped to windward, outside the fending boat, and port tackers to leeward of her (who she must not interfere with (rule 23.2). It may take her some considerable time to break clear from the safe leeward position, to ease sheets and allow the first windward boat to draw clear ahead may just put her overlapped to leeward of the next boat back, and if it would be quicker for her to continue, take the mark-room she is entitled to at the offset then gybe into her turns, she is entitled to do that.
In the context of previous comments I understand your meaning, but it is incorrect.
The rule requires "getting well clear of other boats as soon after the incident as possible."
This means the boat that hit the mark shall immediately be actively seeking a way to get clear.
If she decides somewhat later that she ought to take a penalty, she is in violation and may have to retire or take an additional two turns penalty.
A definition of "well clear" is needed. There are two possible definitions I see:
1) Does "well clear" mean just being out of any reasonable path of other boats (say, 20 degrees above or below rhumbline to the offset mark), even if you give them bad wind while spinning?
2) Or does "well clear" mean that you're both out the path of other boats AND you're not giving them bad air?
In one local fleet (Vanguard 15s) our assumption is that "well clear" is the second definition: not in the path, and not giving bad air.
And because V15s can quickly plane on an offset leg, the most "prompt" way (as measured by time, not distance) to get "well clear" is to sail past the offset mark a couple of boatlengths, then do your penalty turn(s) there, then continue on during the downwind leg.
By doing so, a V15 that hits the weather mark doesn't set off a major wind shadow that will unfairly slow down boats behind them. (Hence the assumption of fleet racing; if team racing, spin just to windward of your opposing team members and slow them down.)
This logic applies to a lot of planing boats (Lasers, 505s, etc.) but not necessarily for displacement boats
But again, it comes down to the definition of "well clear". Any guidance from others would be welcome.
If someone can help find it, I’d appreciate the help.
To me, “well clear” is a proof-in-the-pudding thing. If a boat can execute her turn(s) without other boats, who are sailing a proper course, taking avoiding action … then she is “well clear” enough.
13.1 In RRS 44.2 insert after the first sentence: “However, if an offset mark is set, a boat may delay taking a penalty for an incident in the zone around the windward mark or on the leg between the windward mark and the offset, until she has passed the offset mark.
Seemed to work well.
RRS 44.2 is changed to add after the first sentence: “However, if Mark 1a (offset) is set, a boat may take a penalty for an incident in the zone around Mark 1 or on the leg between Mark 1 and Mark 1a, as soon as possible after leaving the zone around Mark 1a.” This changes RRS 44.2.